Move over please

Interesting, but hardly surprising.

21 June, 2012 - 20:29
St Christopher's picture

When you have half of Europe on the brink of bankruptcy people are going to take advantage of the right to free movement across borders to try and earn a living. If Greece was rich and London was skint, don't think for a second that we wouldn't all be heading the other way. What I'd like to know is how these figures stack up in places like Paris and Berlin as I suspect you'll see similar trends there too.

Ultimately my bet is that Europe will become a larger version of Britain with the majority moving to the richer, economically viable main cities or countries and the underprivileged, undereducated few will be stuck in poorer, less developed areas. The problem, of course, is that this will keep poorer areas permanently in the doldrums as they will struggle to keep people who can build up their local economies and generate wealth for them. Keep it up long enough and eventually we could have whole countries being abandoned for the rich cities. That would then lead to the big corporations moving in and exploiting cheap labour and land costs, Slovakia being a good example of this. 

I'm sure Hud or Morph would put it more coherently than this but would you live in Skelmersdale when the dollars are down in the big smoke?

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"They mostly come out at night, mostly."

...and all for greed.

Boston R (not verified)
21 June, 2012 - 23:39

Still, concreting over what's left of the country really doesn't matter.

It wouldn't matter to the traveller community either

22 June, 2012 - 04:53
St Christopher's picture

Even they have loftier ambitions these days. 

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"They mostly come out at night, mostly."

Red Ed...

22 June, 2012 - 07:08
scorpion's picture

to admit that Labour were wrong to allow mass immigration when they were in power, but under EU rules could they have done anything about it?

what's totally disingenuous..

22 June, 2012 - 11:27

..about Milliband's recanting, is that he blames and looks solely at Eastern Europeans, as if they are the root of all the immigration problems in this country. Why he is unable, incapable or unwilling to talk about the huge Muslim influx, and futhermore, the fact that they are the fastest growing group in the UK in terms of the amount of children they have, I do not know, but it's not the Eastern Europeans who are eating up our benefits system, housing and public healthcare.

 

Shut Whitby now!

22 June, 2012 - 12:30
Donaldo's picture

None of them

22 June, 2012 - 16:26
sixties's picture

will dare to bite the bullet on that particular topic.

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Pikeys in Space

Boston R (not verified)
22 June, 2012 - 11:01

...fighting to pave the human race.

A few local jobs in the Royal Borough to attend to first...

22 June, 2012 - 16:34
sixties's picture

 

They're actually drawn up in a loose circle, a la western wagon trains. I have visions of local councillors and senior officers riding around the outside on horses etc.

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After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says W T F are the FA doing?

I didn't want to mention that Hud...

22 June, 2012 - 18:01
scorpion's picture

not whilst Ben's convalescing. How did you get away with that? I would've been ambushed by the usual suspects.Wink

I guess...

23 June, 2012 - 13:43

..it's because it's the truth Jack.

 

Infidel

Boston R (not verified)
23 June, 2012 - 14:55

...roast old goat is delicious.

No, it is because I've been busy

29 June, 2012 - 23:04

...and it is only a half truth, it isn't simply muslim immigrants streaming over here draining the system. Statistically, if we're just talking about religious groups, then yes muslims are more likely to be unemployed, be in social/council housing and be in poorer health than any other religious group in the UK (ref -wikileaks government study, can't find it but there was one) but, that's including muslims who are British, not simply immigrants. So there may be a case to say in proportion muslims are more likely to be claiming from the state than other religious groups.  But when you look at who actually benefits from the state, in broader terms, regarding education, health care, and consequently better jobs, health, housing etc  it isn't muslims reaping the rewards, it is those groups best able to negotiate those services.

Now I'm no expert on the Koran, and spending most of my leisure time either gardening or in pubs I don't meet many adult muslims, but it does seem to share something in spirit with the original aims of the welfare state. http://www.muslimtents.com/shaufi/b16/b16_17.htm#III-%20Functions%20of%2....

 

Fell orf the back of a lorry

Boston R (not verified)
30 June, 2012 - 21:14

honest.

a further concern - didn't read it

30 June, 2012 - 22:15

Reading more than one Daily Mail article  a week, rots parts of the brain other newspapers don't reach.

apart from the typically ridiculous headline about asylum

30 June, 2012 - 22:11

the article actually makes it look like a healthy position to take. Did you even read it?

Of course....

1 July, 2012 - 09:44
scorpion's picture

I read it, what a silly remark from one who knows all.

silly?

1 July, 2012 - 10:27

Perfectly reasonable assumption, given the conclusion you came to.

and more nonsense

1 July, 2012 - 10:33

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/uk/citizenship-tes...

 

After yesterday's revelation that immigrants and their children feel more British than most, and given how little the general population know of British history, I can't see how it will help anyone.

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