Another one for Ells to.....

scorpion
23 March, 2010 - 13:34

get his teeth into.


An MP was investigated by police for inciting racial hatred over controversial burkha comments following complaints from a human rights association.


Conservative MP Philip Hollobone said wearing a burkha was the religious equivalent of 'going round with a paper bag over your head'.


During a parliamentary debate last month he urged the House of Commons to 'seriously consider' banning the garment.


Now it has emerged police received a complaint about the Kettering MP a few days after his comments from the Northamptonshire Rights and Equality Council (NREC).


Officers rang Mr Hollobone to say a complaint had been made but the Crown Prosecution dropped the case a few days later as there were no grounds for prosecution.


Debates in Westminster are protected by parliamentary privilege but Mr Hollobone said the complaint could have related to comments made inside or outside the Commons.


He blasted the 'hypocritical and 'patronising' NREC today for championing freedom of speech while attempting to have him prosecuted.


Last month the organisation sent the outspoken MP a letter criticising his stance on Muslim women who chose to wear the burkha in public.


Mr Hollobone said: 'It's complete hypocrisy. They talk on one hand about freedom of speech and expression and then without even making contact try to get me prosecuted.


'In this country you should be able to have a debate about controversial subjects without the threat of police action. That's how democracy works.


'I am not going to be silenced by the threat of prosecution when all I am doing is speaking out about the concerns of my constituents.


'If this had gone to court I would have defended myself.


'I don't blame the police at all, they are obliged to investigate reports of crime. That's their job. But I am disgusted that the NREC should seek an MP's prosecution.


'I have been in correspondence with them and offered to meet representatives of local Muslim groups but that invitation is still outstanding.


'The issue here is the covering of ones face in public. the nihab and the burkha are not legal requirements.


'There are large numbers if immigrant women who will not be able to integrate into the British way of life if they cover themselves up.'  On March 11 Mr Hollobone used another Commons' debate to mark International Women's Day to reiterate his views on the burkha.


He said: 'This is Britain. We are not a Muslim country. Covering your face in public is strange and to many people both intimidating and offensive.'  Burkhas are worn by an estimated 100,000 of the 2.4 million Muslims in the UK.


Northamptonshire Police said the complaints related to comments made at the beginning of February in Parliament, although he also expanded on them in a local newspaper.


A police spokesman said: 'It was brought to our attention and we looked into it but the CPS decided there was no case to answer here.'


 

 


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Didn't he..

Hubris Goat
23 March, 2010 - 13:37

..used to manage that QPR back in the day?

Philip Hollobone?

Alvin Stardusts Ring
23 March, 2010 - 13:40
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shirley a Charles Hawtrey character in at least 5 Carry Ons?

scorps, scorps, scorps

Alvin Stardusts Ring
23 March, 2010 - 13:38
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Ethnic groups (2001
See: UK ethnic groups list[1])
92.1% White (mainly of British Isles descent, with minorities of other descent)
4.0% South Asian
2.0% Black
1.2% Mixed
0.4% Chinese
0.4% Other

Hardly Rivers of Blood is it?

Ain't like that round my way son..

Hubris Goat
23 March, 2010 - 13:46

..or should I say, where I *used* to live, since I am currently residing in 99.9% White Christian Mallorca...

Being serious for a moment - the demographic of the Kilburn area has always been changing, and currently I would say, from first hand experience, it's about 55% European White, 25% Black Afro/Caribbean, 15% Muslim and 5% the rest... this of course is not replicated Country-wide, however I find those figures suspiciously low on the non-White side.

 

Is that not

BazWoT
23 March, 2010 - 15:13
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County Kilburn?


At least it was when I lived near the Grove.


Things obviously change mind...

scorpy old chap

rblockells
23 March, 2010 - 13:47
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Seems to me that our Mr. Hollobone wants it both ways.


 


He talks about freedom,and then talks about banning the burka.


 


He says that it is not LAW for these garments to be worn-well no it isn't,but it is part of some womens religion,therefore how can he suggest taking away their right to religious freedom,because some of his constituents find it "Strange".


 


And as for the "British way of life"...what exactly is that??? 


 


 

C'mon Ells

scorpion
23 March, 2010 - 13:53
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get ya teeth into this one!


Homeowner who forgot his wallet returns to find Romanian family moving in in scene from 'Dickensian times'


By Fay Schlesinger
Last updated at 1:32 AM on 23rd March 2010


 



 


A householder returned home after forgetting his wallet - only to discover a Romanian family had moved in.


In what a judge described as a 'Dickensian' spectacle, an immigrant couple with a child in tow had broken in through a window and were making themselves at home.


Mihai and Laura Dediu told the stunned homeowner they were moving into his two-bedroom house because they had heard it was empty, a court was told.


The homeowner is thought to have left the house for no more than an hour.


 


Mihai and Laura Dediu say they moved into the home after being told it had been empty for some time

Forcing their way in: Mihai and Laura Dediu say they moved into the home after being told it had been empty for some time


The man, who lives alone in this two bedroom end-of-terrace house, was astounded to discover Mihai and Laura Dediu moving his belongings out

Target: The man, who lives alone in this two bedroom end-of-terrace house, was astounded to discover the Romanian family moving his belongings out


When he returned to collect the wallet he had forgotten, he found the couple inside and called the police.


The judge dealing with the case was incredulous at the details unfolded at Northampton Crown Court.


'The owner comes back at 5pm and there's an unknown car parked in his drive and the lights to the house are on,' Judge Richard Bray told the court.


'He goes in and finds these two defendants and, wait for it, a young child. We're going back to Dickensian times, it appears.


'When challenged, the defendants say they own the property and are just moving in and that the male defendant was going to alter the locks as part of that process.'


Sentencing the Dedius to 100 hours' community service with a 12-month community order, he added: 'This is a bizarre case. I must be the most experienced person in this building for burglary and in 26 years I cannot remember a case where burglars have taken a young child with them to carry out the burglary. I really can't.'


Judge Richard Bray

Judge Richard Bray on the Romanian squatters: 'We are going back to Dickensian times it appears'


Dediu, 30, and his 24-year-old wife admitted criminal damage to windows and locks while forcing their way in to the house in Northampton on December 7 last year.


The pair said a Romanian man they met in a shop told them they could squat in the house because it was empty, the court heard.


Michael Waterfield, prosecuting, said: 'It may have been that's what the defendants were told, but once they got into the house they would certainly have realised it was still occupied. They were taking clothes from the cupboards.'


A burglary charge, which carries a maximum jail sentence of 14 years, was dropped because the pair claimed they never intended to steal.


They moved to Britain three years ago and rent a two-bedroom flat with daughters Rebecca, eight, and Denisa, two, half a mile from the £150,000 home they broke into.


Last night Dediu, a builder earning £8,000 a year, said: 'I met a man in the shop and he said this house was empty. I was not earning much money and we were paying £450 a month rent. I got into the house and started to tidy up. It did not look as if anybody was living there.


'I want to work and pay my bills. I don't want free money. I just wanted to save money and not pay rent.'


His wife said: 'The house was a mess. We were tidying it up. We did not think anybody was living there.'


The householder declined to comment or confirm his name when he returned from work yesterday. The curtains remained drawn.


One neighbour said: 'I suppose someone could believe the house was empty.'


 

 


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Deportation, not after some bleeding heart has pleaded for them but right NOW.


- jono, Cambridge Cambs, 23/3/2010 09:41


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Typical Labour voters!


- DinoDino, Bedford, 23/3/2010 09:38


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Britain is becoming the welfare country to the world. Why wasn't these Romanians deported?

- Sue, England, UK, 22/3/2010 15:34

Rubbish, it's the Romanians and other Eastern Europeans that do your country's work, the hard stuff that you lazy Britons are too beneath to do.


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They should be deported, no argument, and no return. It should be mandatory.


- Bert, London UK, 23/3/2010 09:37


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If these people really are being hoodwinked - this is the second story of this happening in a couple of months - maybe some of our taxpayers money ought to be spent an a campaign educating immigrants about private property. After all we have leaflets translated into every conceivable language telling them about their rights, don't we?


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now if we ever needed an excuse to rid this country of labour and its policy of open arms to all immigrants this is it


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THAT'S A HOUSE...

Boston R
23 March, 2010 - 22:04
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...in farkin Hobbit Town ?

Some friends of mine had a similar problem in Hammersmith i...

Donaldo
23 March, 2010 - 22:37
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... in the 70s.  Squatters moved in to a house that had been done up to serve as a group home for mentally handicapped (as 'twas known then) adults.  An enterprising soul had a word with a couple of local coppers and found out a time of night when they'd be nowhere near thehouse.  He and and a few his friends used that window of opportunity to persuade the squatters to leave.  That's a true story.  Not so sure about the one above.

And as for the "British way

Hubris Goat
23 March, 2010 - 14:04

And as for the "British way of life"...what exactly is that???

 

Fish and chips, Beer, Tea, Bingo, Page 3 birds, ASBOs, Tescos, football, sex-slavery, forced weddings, chinese immigrants, burkhas, mosques, temples, Hare Krishna's prancing down Oxford Street, Glastonbury, Margate, Toon army, Toon army, Hull Kingston Rovers, Accrington Stanley, black pudding, National Parks, the National Trust, changing the guard, Buckingham Palace, pigeons, paedophiles, perfumed ponces, pitbulls, penne pasta, pancake day, pomp and circumstance, old people's homes, digital TV, CC fucking TV, no-nothing twats supporting Chelsea FC, the rise and fall of the BBC, clotted cream, scones and jam, deck chairs, Habitat, Asda, organic hand-reared free-to-roam Gloucester old spots, Monty Don, Jamie Oliver, Gordon Ramsay, fried breakfasts, McDonalds, obesity, anorexia, dyslexia, should have gone to specsavers, rain, climate change, road rage, facebook, fuckwits, fandango..

the British Way of Life is...

Alvin Stardusts Ring
23 March, 2010 - 14:12
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about driving in a German car to an Irish pub for a Belgian beer, then travelling home, grabbing an Indian curry or a Turkish kebab on the way, to sit on Swedish furniture and watch American shows on a Japanese telly

Only in Britain can a pizza get to your house faster than an ambulance.
Only in Britain do supermarkets make sick people walk all the way to the back of the shop to get their prescriptions while healthy people can buy cigarettes at the front.
Only in Britain do people order double cheeseburgers, large fries and a DIET coke.
Only in Britain do banks leave both doors open and chain the pens to the counters.
Only in Britain do we leave cars worth thousands of pounds on the drive and lock our junk and cheap lawn mower in the garage.
Only in Britain do we use answering machines to screen calls and then have call waiting so we won't miss a call from someone we didn't want to talk to in the first place.
Only in Britain are there disabled parking places in front of a skating rink.


And the most British thing of all? Suspicion of all things foreign eh Scorps...



 

cut'n'paste job Alv..

Hubris Goat
23 March, 2010 - 14:12

Sounds vaguely American in origin. Poor.

 

Why wouldn't you have

sixties
24 March, 2010 - 00:34
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Why wouldn't you have disabled parking spaces in front of a skating rink? And actually they're accessible parking spaces....often occupied by some lazy, arrogant fucker like John Terry.

And modern Irish pub chains in Britain are nothing like Irish pubs (in Britain or Ireland).

Very poor c+p, must be at least 10 years old. And I don't conform to any of it anyway.

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Spot on

BazWoT
24 March, 2010 - 02:34
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often occupied by some lazy, arrogant fucker like John Terry


 


Still does it in Cobham, the arsehole, scum of the earth, not his fault though, comes from his parents.

You just don't get it...

ChrisO
23 March, 2010 - 18:18
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Nor does Mr Hollowhead. Don't you see that the fact that we don't ban things is what makes the difference ?

Go ahead and ban burqas and whatever you don't like (though while you're at it explain to me how you draw the line between that and nuns wearing habits).

It's funny that your later post about the Romanians featured the comments of a man who dresses in robes and wears a powdered wig made of horse hair. That's pretty normal isn't it ? He should know all about Dickens... Mr Fang anyone ?

Ban it all and eventually we'll end up just like the people you profess to dislike.

Britain has a long history of absorbing other cultures and even providing refuge for them. From the French Huguenots through to people like Karl Marx though no doubt people like you would resent any of them arriving these days. Even the strength of the English language is that it absorbs and borrows.

If anyone is anti-British it's you and your crypto-fascist idols, supported by the openly fascist Mail. You're just too stupid to see it.

actually I think we're being too generous

Lloydy
23 March, 2010 - 18:26
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maybe he's just stupid or a racist

I'd go for the latter which incidently encompasses the former quite nicely.

 

Here's a thought, if we deported all the racists then there would be plenty of room for all those that actually wanted to live here.

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Actually in progress, sort of...

Boston R
23 March, 2010 - 22:43
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...one in ten people born in Britain and classified as 'white', have left the country. These numbers are steadily escalating, US Immigration considers there will only be a minimal slowdown in applications even with the current economic downturn. This view  appears to be reflective of other traditional migration destinations. Those leaving tend to be of above average education, professionals, medical, businessmen and trades.  UK stats suggest that without the inflow in the last decade, the population of Britain would have fallen. One worrying point is that the 'replacements', have not been like for like. The new Britons are less well educated, lower on the financial scale and more likely to seek  government assistance.

I'm one of four siblings, all live abroad, none have any intention of returning. I don't know what it's like where you live, but Wembley's not nice. My local Pub is dead. There used to be 100 / 150 neighbours in there at the weekend, now I bump into one or two. Still enjoy my visits though, it's just changed so fast, it doesn't feel comfortable. Brent Council seem intent on building on every square inch of green space  in my old area, alternatively knocking down one house to construct four. Good luck to ya, think you're in for problems.

Only you

BazWoT
23 March, 2010 - 23:44
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want to be in that septic isle

Which Septic

Boston R
24 March, 2010 - 00:57
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..you sceptic ?

"Those leaving tend to be ...

Donaldo
24 March, 2010 - 19:45
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... of above average education, professionals, medical, businessmen and trades."

 

What about the taxi drivers and assorted morons fleeing to the costas?  They moan about immigrants living in their own communities and swamping an area whilst not learning the language.  And then ...

Not that old chestnut...

BazWoT
23 March, 2010 - 20:03
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This country doesn't ban things, that's a bleedin larf!!!

I poisened some of the neighbours once

Boston R
24 March, 2010 - 00:59
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wrong fucking chestnuts.

You

BazWoT
24 March, 2010 - 02:35
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would


:p

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scorpion
24 March, 2010 - 10:10
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Thank you for your kind interest in my posts, it's nice to read yours and the other posters points of view. It helps me to understand the type of people who post on this forum including an insight into their social and political backgrounds, and the subjects they are likely to react to.


It's a hobby. 

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